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Thu, 24 Aug 2017 12:19:05 -0400
2017
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If the idea of paralleling 2- 60 AH packs works, you should get 100 mile range. In a message dated 8/24/2017 11:46:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email removed] writes: Are the Leaf batteries pouch cells? They appear to show a similar dimension. You can buy the whole car for...
Eric Jonathan
Thu, 24 Aug 2017 15:46:33 +0000 (UTC)
2017
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Are the Leaf batteries pouch cells? They appear to show a similar dimension. You can buy the whole car for $7000 , of course it seems a shame to pull apart a perfectly good electric car for it's batteries. Range wise? I dont think I want to be driving an s10 for 400 miles, a g...
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Thu, 24 Aug 2017 10:57:55 -0400
2017
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Although I like the specs on these pouch cells, I haven't found a good price on them. After a quick search, It seems a 60 AH pack is between $7,000 to $21,000 using 3.2 V- 30 AH pouch cells at $52.00 each. To have a range of 400-450 miles, you're looking at 5 or 6 times that c...
William Calluthers
Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:53:09 +0000 (UTC)
2017
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Re: Lithium conversion.If finances allow I would strongly recommend looking at making your own modules from the new generation "pouch cells" (1200 amp/cell discharge rate would give outstanding performance. Charge times are minutes not hours. Cycles are up around 15000. Densit...
William Calluthers
Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:44:01 +0000 (UTC)
2017
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Re: FW: s10e - ev1 gear case (Kevin Kayden) (Steve Hawkins) A GM friend suggested to me that the gear case lubricant was an aircraft lubricant/fluid, and should be sourced from same. On Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:09 PM, "[email removed]" <[email removed]> wrote: Send S10-EV mail...
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Sat, 5 Aug 2017 10:04:05 -0400
2017
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Hi Eric, Thanks for the input. I think the 18650 cells are a better choice for several reasons. The Prismatic cells, often called "Yellow Bricks", don't have the energy density of 18650's and you can't even fit a 100 AH pack in our battery box. However, at 3.2 volts per cell,...
Eric Jonathan
Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:22:42 +0000 (UTC)
2017
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Hi Kevin and all, I'll chime in here.I pretty much consider successfully messing with the trucks soft firm ware as an impossibility since i wouldnt know what i was doing. so you'd pretty much have to fool the BPCM into thinking all is well in the battery box. One of the though...
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Thu, 3 Aug 2017 12:10:08 -0400
2017
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Just thinking out loud about a possible Lithium conversion. The Tesla battery approach seems to be a good answer, however, there are some issues with the S10E. Mainly the voltages sent to the S10E battery computer. An option here would be to convert your S10E into a back yard...
Bryan Sailors
Sat, 20 May 2017 09:51:10 -0700
2017
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Ok gang coolant does matter. It must be Dexcool and will say it on the container. AutoZone or Oriellys, yes its typically orange. The conversion to NiMH from lead on the 1997s were not an easy modification. The programming of the BPCM alone was not enough to make it all work....
Jack Parette
Sat, 20 May 2017 13:23:14 +0000 (UTC)
2017
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I bought a GM Tech 2 clone from the odb China website a few years ago. It works with all the S10e DTC reading and many measurement and variable data monitoring. Paid $300 new came with case and all cables, even can bys stuff, that ee dont need. Never tried flashing yet. For th...
Kevin Kayden
Fri, 19 May 2017 02:54:05 +0000
2017
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Maybe it is off-topic, but there was also a specific coolant needed for the S10-EV. I got a gallon jug of it long ago. I thought, that's strange, it looks like the label was put on top of another label. So when I peeled it off, it was a Havoline coolant (IIRC), rebranded as sp...
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Wed, 17 May 2017 09:41:19 -0400
2017
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Good luck! I've had my 1997 S10E for sale for over 2 years. Mine is ready to go with a fresh pack of Lead-Acids. Everything works. Full set of manuals, 3 chargers and a Tech 2. But I'm not seeing a market out there. I'm retired now and it's the perfect vehicle for me now for s...
Gregg bowman
Tue, 16 May 2017 16:02:15 -0700
2017
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Selling 1996 ev bones s10-ev. What is the best way to market the vehicle..or is there a market? 26k miles, batteries have been dead for five years. Running fine before that. Gregg; [email removed] > On May 15, 2017, at 10:40 PM, [email removed] wrote: > > Send S10-EV mailing l...
Alan Martin
Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:56:25 -0400
2016
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Hi All Long time lurker here on the email list. Previously I've tinkered with a salvage powertrain from one of these trucks in a swapped project. Now I've recently became a legitimate S10e owner- my 1998 was delivered earlier this month. Its in pretty good shape, missing the c...
Steve Hawkins
Tue, 9 Aug 2016 14:50:05 +0000
2016
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Thanks for the responses everyone. As it turns out, the GM description is "CABLE, DRV MOT SHIFT LVR" The 97 PN is – 27002186. The 98 PN is – 27003306. My local dealer said no longer available from all sources. Ebay had a std. gas truck PN listed under PN 15721261, and the comp...
HPEV LLC
Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:10:58 -0700
2016
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I wouldn't be surprised if the shift cable was the exact same as an automatic transmission "gas" S-10. I seem to recall the "PRND" display on at least the 1998 S-10E actually was carried over from the auto-transmission S-10 because if you look closely and diagonally through th...
Robert Ogle
Mon, 13 Jul 2015 06:48:55 -0700
2015
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Good Morning, It is good to see people are still paying attention to our list (Hi Steve!)! I am afraid that I don't have good news, either. The trucks are non-op (as Jeff Thomas would say). It got to be too difficult to keep them charged with the batteries falling out of balan...
George Richards
Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:23:51 -0700
2015
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Hi Kevin, Michael and Greg; I'm also going through the same sort of decision making. I've owned my 97 s10ev since Jan. 2005 and its been great to me. Of course I've hand to change a few things like coolant pump, brakes, radiator fan buffer and of course the all elusive batteri...
Jamovarec
Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:26:22 -0300
2015
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Hi Michael I have my 97 S10Ev running perfectly, I use it al least 3 times a week, it has the original lead acid Panasonic Ev 1260 I managed to get from Japan, I normally drive around 25 miles before charging it. I had to swap 2 low modules, recently and will have to install L...
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Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:16:19 -0400
2015
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Hello to the survivors, Mine has a few bad batteries. (Lead acids) and of course the computer won't let me move it. I only got 12,500 miles from the pack of Deka 12AVR75 batteries, but believe I could get double that since I'm more aware of how to drive it now. Years ago, when...
Greg Rohrauer
Sat, 11 Jul 2015 22:58:01 -0400
2015
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Michael; I’m still driving mine, mostly to haul gardening stuff (soil, mulch, sand gravel, shrubs, flowers, tree limbs) or get lumber from building supply, etc. Basically I use it as the pickup truck it was designed to be. The self discharge is getting much worse, and I have m...
Larry Horsley
Thu, 28 May 2015 14:45:49 +0000
2015
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Hello Steve, I have a 1998 S-10EV and a 1999 S-10EV. they have some body damage and no batteries. As far as I know the trucks only need batteries. I would sell the two for $5,500.00 or one for 3,000.00, you choose. They ea. have about 9,000 miles. Larry H.
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Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:18:32 -0400
2015
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I've had my fun and time to move on. 1997 S10E for sale. $7,000 OBO. 12K miles.Needs batteries. Everything else is perfect! I have 26- Deka 12AVR75 AGM batteries installed. 1 battery has a bad cell and the computer quickly shuts you down when it drops to 10V. I could replace t...
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Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:27:35 -0400 (EDT)
2014
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I have held off replying, as this is still very difficult to think about. When Bryan called me it was a total shock. Not only that day, but not able to fall sleep until 5 AM in the morning. Jeff and I enjoyed many days together working on the S-10's and our family's spent time...
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Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:06:39 -0400
2014
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Hi Bob, This is Kevin in Delaware, not Don. But I've been looking into this too. I found something that may work. It's called a Smart Battery. http://www.lithiumion-batteries.com/products/12v-50ah-lithium-ion-battery/ At $690 each, they're very expensive, but I spoke to a guy...
Robert Ogle
Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:41:52 -0700
2014
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Hi Don, I would be interested in working with the team on an upgrade for, at least, one of my trucks. I know that Richard Hatfield here in the Palo Alto area was working on an upgrade. They have not updated us on the progress - perhaps, it was too time consuming a distraction...
Steve Hawkins
Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:59:59 +0000
2014
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Dear Bryan, That is sad news. Our condolences for your loss. Jeff had helped out everyone interested in EVs in general and S10Es in specific over the years. He had communicated with me on many of my personal projects over the years and was much appreciated. Just a few weeks ag...
Paul Peavyhouse
Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:14:30 -0700
2014
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Hear hear! Hats off to Jeff, and a moment of EV silence as all electrons cease to move for a Plank Second in honor of Jeff. You are and will be greatly missed, and the world is a bit more empty now without access to the vast knowledge you had in your head and heart. Deepest re...
Paula Clark
Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:30:41 -0700
2014
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Greetings all this is Bryan Sailors partner to Jeff Thomas and owner of the retired EVBones. I am very sad to inform all of you to the loss of my best friend and business partner Jeff Thomas. Jeff passed 3 weeks ago due to a medical emergency while he was camping out of town a...
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:59:22 -0400 (EDT)
2014
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A long time list member contacted me about their interest in doing their own LiFePo4 upgrade We agreed it would be good to post to the list and see if anyone else is interested. I have almost have one done, that I just changed direction on the BMS. The other BMS has had some i...